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Old 03-16-2005, 11:23 AM
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Public School verses Private or Home school

I would like to hear your opinion on what you think is best public school, private school, or home school.
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Old 03-16-2005, 11:29 AM
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It's a personal choice...

Home School is good for some, but not all... same for all of the options.

And let's not forget that not everyone is cut out to be a home-school parent...
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Old 03-16-2005, 11:56 AM
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I think it depends on the child and the parent, and the program..... I think it is unique to each situation..... My son went to public school for nine years and was below grade average in lots of areas, but then I put him in church school with ABEKA and his scores soared above graduation level within just one year.... but it was a pitfall in other areas.... specifically church relations since the pastor was a teacher and his kids went there too... In looking for a home program, it depends on the motivation of the child and parent and also need to make sure the program is accredited and will actually receive a diploma upon graduation.... Some programs don't offer diplomas and the kids have to take the GED test.... Just my thoughts...

OH... and on another scenario... we had a church school that had ACE at one time and the school closed... Some of the kids had trouble getting into public school at their should be grade level....

Again, I strongly believe there are lots of factors to consider....
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Our kids are "bright"- it is a blessing & a responsibility- it is a given in our home that our kids are going to go on to college, and along the way, receive a superlative education, not just an average one. It is very hard to do that with homeschool methods. There are many stories of homeschool kids excelling, but there are just as many (and more, in my opinion) of homeschool kids being below grade average. Homeschooling also hinges on the parent that is home being super-organized, and having the necessary skills & desire to commit to this huge task. That would be me, in my case- & I'm really not that organized, & the thought of adding the huge task of homeschooling to my day just doesn't make me happy whatsoever. So, since we are blessed with excellent quality schools in our town, our kids will be receiving public school education.

No matter which way a person goes, there's a different set of positives and negatives to deal with. A person just has to choose which ones they are willing to cope with. For me, I am far less concerned about my children being "contaminated" by public school, than by the strife, disorganization, stress, and poor education that would doubtless ensue if I tried to educate them.
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I agree, it is a personal choice. Parents today need to go to the ps and actually look and see what it is like there. It may vary from one year to the other how good the ps is doing. When my children were small it was fine, but as they got older it started to change. We live in the Atlanta area, when we had the olympics here, we had a longer summer than usual because the olympics were using our buses and drivers. Then a week or so later we had the special olympics here, same thing with our buses and drivers. Well I noticed a BIG difference in how my two girls acted when they were in so for a little while. Just a couple of weeks into school my husband and I were talking about the attitude and disobiedence that they both had. We came to the conclusion it was because of school. (not that they are perfect angels, they are far from that) . So that is what I mean by taking ps one year at a time. Private school was never really an option for us. It is expensive and I used to work in one and I saw the down side of it. So we chose homeschool. It is not always easy. But what I hear about other ways to school, we found it is the best for our family. One thing is if you are going to homeschool, then you need to make sure you do it every year. I know some people who put their kids in homeschool one year, then they put him in private school, and now they are in public school. What ever you choose you need to make sure you are consistent with it.

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Old 03-16-2005, 02:40 PM
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We do both.
We homeschool our teen with Alpha Omega Switched on Schoolhouse.
We public school our eight year old.Though we don't leave it to the school to decide how much we put into her life.
That is the failing of a parent in education.
When you allow the school to put just the minimum in your child.
We buy programs for the younger and books etc.
I also take them both on field trips and to museums and to classes that
are available.
The older will be going to college when she is done with homeschool.
That is also our plans for the younger.She wants to become a pediatrician.
The path ahead depends on both the child and the parent.lv sis.c
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Old 03-16-2005, 02:57 PM
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Our kids are "bright"- it is a blessing & a responsibility- it is a given in our home that our kids are going to go on to college, and along the way, receive a superlative education, not just an average one. It is very hard to do that with homeschool methods.


There are many methods of homeschooling. One that might work well for one would prove to be disasterous to another. No two methods are exactly alike and one can combine methods. If the correct method is chosen for the parent/child team, they will work every time. If not, they will fail. The problems are not the methods themselves.


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There are many stories of homeschool kids excelling, but there are just as many (and more, in my opinion) of homeschool kids being below grade average.
Notice that's just your opinion...not proof. The proof is in the students themselves and their accomplishments. Even statistics show that homeschool students excel beyond their peers. These days even the Ivy League colleges are seeking out homeschoolers.

However, there are parents who lack vision, insight and tenacity when it comes to their children's education (and life, in general) and, in being that way, set their children up for failure. You'll find these same parents kids acting up in class at public or private school lots of times.

Of course that's not all inclusive because there are some children who just aren't made for the classroom setting and learn better by exploring.

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Homeschooling also hinges on the parent that is home being super-organized,
Being super-organized is not a requirement in any way, shape or form. There are many successful homeschooling parents who confess they are not organized.

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and having the necessary skills & desire to commit to this huge task.
It is beneficial when a parent can teach, but I have met very few who did not have that ability. Surely, most parents teach their children their ABC's, colors, shapes, numbers, how to tie their shoes, etc, etc. Is that not homeschooling of sorts?

However, knowledge of all subjects is not a requirement. There are plenty resources out there for parents -- co-ops, curricula that comes with tutors, etc.

Committment? Yes, it takes committment, just as parenting does.


Do I think all children would be better homeschooled? Yes, but only if their parents knew in what direction they were aiming their children. That would require having insight into what God's purpose is for that child, what the child's desires are in life and preparing them for it.

Do I think all parents are cut out for homeschooling? Absolutely not. I don't think all parents are cut out for parenting!
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Homeschooling is just a fancy word for "raising children".



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There are many methods of homeschooling. One that might work well for one would prove to be disasterous to another. No two methods are exactly alike and one can combine methods. If the correct method is chosen for the parent/child team, they will work every time. If not, they will fail. The problems are not the methods themselves.



Notice that's just your opinion...not proof. The proof is in the students themselves and their accomplishments. Even statistics show that homeschool students excel beyond their peers. These days even the Ivy League colleges are seeking out homeschoolers.

However, there are parents who lack vision, insight and tenacity when it comes to their children's education (and life, in general) and, in being that way, set their children up for failure. You'll find these same parents kids acting up in class at public or private school lots of times.

Of course that's not all inclusive because there are some children who just aren't made for the classroom setting and learn better by exploring.


Being super-organized is not a requirement in any way, shape or form. There are many successful homeschooling parents who confess they are not organized.


It is beneficial when a parent can teach, but I have met very few who did not have that ability. Surely, most parents teach their children their ABC's, colors, shapes, numbers, how to tie their shoes, etc, etc. Is that not homeschooling of sorts?

However, knowledge of all subjects is not a requirement. There are plenty resources out there for parents -- co-ops, curricula that comes with tutors, etc.

Committment? Yes, it takes committment, just as parenting does.


Do I think all children would be better homeschooled? Yes, but only if their parents knew in what direction they were aiming their children. That would require having insight into what God's purpose is for that child, what the child's desires are in life and preparing them for it.

Do I think all parents are cut out for homeschooling? Absolutely not. I don't think all parents are cut out for parenting!
It's a good thing one's salvation is NOT hinged on whether or not they homeschool- nor are non-homeschoolers somehow lacking, or "not cut out for parenting"!

As always, I now deeply regret having entered my thoughts into any discussion involving the word "homeschool".
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we have realy great public schools here where i am, we moved here specificly becouse of the school district, i have in fact been concerned with what they would be taught, my daughter is in the 8th grade, and i requested that some of the education that they teach, she be left out of. and so far so good,when your kids are in public schools i think its vital that there be a reinforcement at home on christain values, my daughter has no problem in fact with letting the other kids and the teachers know that she is a apostolic, and filled with the holyghost, and she has no problem keeping her standards iether, she still wears her skirts and has hair past her behind, she has lots of friends, and is looked up to, she doesnt want to go to a christain school, or be homeschooled
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It's a good thing one's salvation is NOT hinged on whether or not they homeschool- nor are non-homeschoolers somehow lacking, or "not cut out for parenting"!

As always, I now deeply regret having entered my thoughts into any discussion involving the word "homeschool".
Good grief, LOA, most certainly you have misconceptions about homeschooling, but in no way were you being insulted for them or your opinion.
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In my 30 years of considering this subject, I have changed my mind at least 3 times as to which way I felt was the best choice at that time. Honestly, I'm not sure there is one correct answer, nor can I say for sure which one I would pick today.

During my school years I would have voted very quickly to eject from public school. I have characterized my Jumior High years as Purgetory and High School got worse. It was not that I was a bad student, but I had social issues to no end with a few teachers and nearly all peers.

Shortly after Graduation, I started to get a real education. Being raised in Church, I was seriously sheltered. I spend the first years in shock at people and there conversations. And I didn't consider myself one of the "Sterile" ones in our youth group. I had at least tried to socialize in school with those "worldly kids" others did not. During this time period I seriously questioned the wisdom of isolating our kids even more than we do.

I have heard Preacher's contend that we should leave our kids in Public School as a witness. I counter that by asking if we dangle them over Hell-Fire should be expect to loose a few and singe a few others at the same time?II contend that is a very unwise concept.

I guess that today my thoughts would be that Non-Public schools will not be a fix for for the vast majority of problems we claim that Public schools have. Our cause would be better served, with more effort on the part of our parents and churches.

The social problems that I had in Public school might have been masked in a Non-Public setting, but not fixed. The possibility is rather high that they may have been worst and then who could I blame, at least I had a scapegoat. The fact was I was having the same type of problems at church also.

The bottom line is a larger factor in how the kids will turn out is how much the parents are envolved with the kids, in either setting.

Good Parenting = Good Kids, no matter the school setting.
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Good Parenting = Good Kids, no matter the school setting.
I lean toward that thinking, but then I realize there are good parents whose kids are real troublemakers, too.
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It's a good thing one's salvation is NOT hinged on whether or not they homeschool...
Mar 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of [these] little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.


Mar 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Considering the public school system is essentially an atheistic, antichrist, communist subversive movement hell-bent on polluting children's minds and stamping out any vestige of Christianity in them that they can, it just might be a salvation issue...

jmo, of course.

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